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Here's a very helpful Capo and Transposing Chart featured on Live Lessons! Instantly know what key you're playing in with the capo. Capo and Transposing Chart.pdf Some "Talking Points" by Steve Krenz, from the Sept 25th/18 Live Lesson; What is a capo? – It holds down the strings of the guitar in a specific fret – similar to a barre chord. · Different Types of Capos o Clamp – Kyser Type o Pressure/Tension – G7th · Sizes for Normal and Classical Guitars, partial capos · Why Use Capos? o It’s not cheating. o Open strings sound good on guitar. o Open string keys are C-G-D-A-E or the CAGED keys. o If you need to sound in a key other than these, capos help you use the fingerings and sounds from these “guitar-friendly” keys and put them in all of the other keys. So Where Do I Put My Capo? o You don’t have to guess or stress out about this anymore. o Different capo Options § Natural Option – for the most natural sound closest to open. § Alternate Option – for a sound different from the natural. § High Option – for a high-pitched sound. Chart from real-world professional experience (see link above)

Hey Ben; WOW... (envy attack) Gorgeous... Congrats on another stunning guitar for your collection! I saw this limited edition model (an update on the venerable ES-175?) come out but have never seen one in person, they are so rare. I bet it sounds sweet... perfect for jazz.

You're very welcome @Wim VD1 you deserve plenty of praise... I admire your effort. Further to my comments, I think it was George Benson who I heard say something like; " It's more about what you don't play ... " BB King was a master of this too.. making beautiful melodies out of only 3 or 4 notes.

A digital version of the "Lesson Book for Gibson's Learn & Master Guitar " is available for free download in .pdf format The digital version of Bonus Resources BookBonus Workshops Book included in Gibson's Learn & Master Guitar (pdf - very large file) also free download .pdf format. Replacement DVD's and print books for the Learn and Master Guitar course and ALL Learn and Master courses (Blues, Fingerstyle, Song Hits etc.) by Steve Krenz are available from Legacy Learning Systems. Call 866-683-6027

Some will notice, I was recently recruited to act as a volunteer co-moderator of this forum, a job which I'm happy to do along with my colleague Ron aka @matonanjin . You may have noticed some recent changes, such as files and topics moved or deleted due to duplication. This will be an ongoing process along with being "on the lookout" for those whose views and motives for posting are not in line with our "Mission Statement". (About Us - below) It is hoped that these changes will make the "Forum" a more enjoyable place for all members to use and learn from. I would ask that before you post a Topic, please be sure to post it under the appropriate Forum, and check to be sure that you are not duplicating a previous post. We welcome your positive suggestions and comments. If you do have a comment or suggestion please contact @NeilES335 or @Matonanjin by Personal Message. ABOUT US Guitar Gathering is a community of guitar lovers of all types and skill levels. This is a place of learning, support and encouragement. We are unapologetically positive. If you've come here to gripe, demean others or talk politics then this isn't the place for you. But if you've come to talk guitars, ask questions and learn from professionals and guitar learners from all over the world then come on in! GET IN TOUCH PO Box 443, Thompsons Station, Tennessee, 37179 USA Email Steve Krenz ; Prize winners on Live Lessons; Service@MightyOakMusic.com Phone +1(615)647-8228 OUR STAFF MEMBERS Steve KrenzAdministrators matonanjinMembers NeilES335Members T

While this post is a very early one from the beginning of this Guitar Gathering website, (after migration from the Learn and Master Guitar Discussion Forum in Jan 2018) it is a basic "Mission Statement" for what Guitar Gathering is all about, and worth noting and preserving, hence it's position. NeilES335, Moderator.

String Names, Technique, Tuning, Finger Exercises, C & G7 Chords A Forum for Learn and Master Guitar Students to ask questions, make comments, receive advice and encouragement, and post their progress.

Words of Wisdom and direction for those studying Session 4 and beyond, by Steve Krenz; Steve has always said Session 4 is really like having two sessions in one. And he encourages members to divide it into 2 parts as you are doing. Here are a few posts from the old forum that contain his words of wisdom: Posted by Steve Krenz on 18 June 2009 - 06:18 AM in Guitar Session 4 (old LMG forum) Well, welcome to Session 4! Session 4 is the last session on learning the notes in the first position. If you can get through it successfully you will have reached the first big milestone in the course. End of Session 4 - Note Reading In the past 4 sessions you will have learned how to read music and how to play the notes on all of the strings in the first position. But don't start celebrating yet. You still have Session 4 to get through. Here are some words of wisdom having walked many people through these concepts. 1) Session 4 is a big session. It's really two major concepts (The Notes on the 5th & 6th Strings and Sharps & Flats) all rolled into one session.Plan on it taking twice as long as the other sessions. I don't mean to discourage you, I'm just keeping it real. There are several "big" sessions in the course ie. Big concepts, longer time involved, bigger payoff at the end... And session 4 is the first of them. Don't get discouraged by this, just relax and continue what you've been doing...climbing day by day, exercise by exercise, skill by skill through the material. 2) Since Session 4 basically has two parts to it, I encourage you to split them up as you practice them. The first part of Session 4 is learning the notes on the 5th and 6th strings. So, initially just worry about those. Don't even worry about the Sharps and Flats part of it at first. As you are learning the notes on the 5th and 6th strings, you'll find yourself back at square 1 again with fumbling for the notes and getting your fingers to land where your brain is telling them to land. You'll go through the phase of feeling like nothing is working, even the notes from the earlier sessions you'll miss for a while, but don't worry about this, this is all normal and everyone goes through this phase. The notes on the 5th and 6th strings are the LAST notes you'll need to conquer for a while. Go through as much of the exercises and Bonus exercises and songs and Hal Leonard Easy Pop Melodies songs as you can... as many times as possible. You're building muscle memory and note recognition which is built by repetition. So do the songs over and over again, and keep doing the old songs. Once you have a pretty good handle on all of the notes in the first position, then start working on the Sharps and Flats alterations to them. This will bring a whole new world of possibilities and challenges. But with practice they will start to come together. These are very important concepts for playing guitar so really dig into learning them. And when you get through Session 4, then take yourself out to dinner, or better yet to the guitar store! Ask questions as you need to. Many people here have gone through the same things that you are going through and they can help you. Keep up the great work! And I'll see you on the other side of Session 4. - Steve Krenz Posted 05 July 2009 - 09:12 PM Matthew, Congratulations on making it to Session 4! You've come a long way and there is nothing that is in Session 4 that is beyond you. It's just a continuation of your learning of the notes in the first position. Yes, it's a big session. (Actually, it's really 2 sessions in one. - the notes on the 5th & 6th strings and sharps & flats.) I encourage you to think of it that way - 2 separate sessions. Focus in on the new notes on the 5th & 6th strings first, before trying to work with the sharps and flats. Also, it is important that you get all of the practice reading that you can. Read the old exercises and songs, Read the Bonus Workshop exercises and songs, Read the Hal Leonard Easy Songs. Read them all. Over and over. Repetition, repetition, repetition will help you. The notes on the 5th and 6th strings are going to be tough for you at first. But let me give you some hope. A few sessions ago you thought that the notes on the earlier strings were impossible. That's how you are going to probably feel about the notes on the 5th & 6th strings. But you will conquer them just like you did the earlier strings. At the end of this session, you will have reached the first major milestone in the course. This session represents the end of the formal working on the first position notes. It's a big deal. You still have a ways to go but you'll get there. Keep up the great work! - Steve Krenz Posted 17 February 2015 - 09:34 AM It's great to hear everyone's progress. Here are some thoughts. SESSION 4 IS REALLY TWO DIFFERENT SESSIONS Session 4 covers two major concepts. 1) The completion of the notes in the first position. 2) And, sharps and flats. Treat them as two completely different sessions. Give Session 4 about twice the amount of time to complete as you've been having on the other sessions. Work on learning the notes on the 5th and 6th strings first. And, go through the exercises and songs that apply in the book and bonus resources book. (The Easy Pop Melodies series is great at this time to give you more songs to practice with. You can see that HERE ) Then, move on to sharps and flats. IT'S NOT A RACE, TAKE THE TIME NEEDED TO LEARN Yes, it's not a race. So, take your time, and really learn the concepts. Yes, it's hard. The songs are harder. Don't take the easy way and just fake your way through them. Invest the time needed to do them as best as you can do them. Start slowly. Break the songs down into pieces and then put the pieces together once you've got them worked out. DON'T DEMAND PERFECTION - IT'S NOT TIME FOR THAT This session is about going through as much material as you can find. It's about solving the problems of what the notes are and where they are over and over and over again in a variety of situations. Think of it like this. If you were learning to drive, you wouldn't train by driving the exact same street every day until you can get it absolutely perfect. You need to be put in lots of different driving situations and get used to working with new elements. That's how it is with learning to play at this stage. You need lots of practice with different musical situations. Don't burden yourself with waiting to move on until every song is perfect. Don't wait for perfection. Do the best you can then keep moving. - Steve And here is another containing Steve's wisdom. I remember him using climbing a mountain as an example. Posted 06 May 2008 - 04:18 PM Hello, Everyone had been talking about how they are camping here at Session 4 so I thought I would carry the analogy along. Let me first welcome you to beautiful Session 4. I'm not going to point out the dangerous parts which you have all found so naturally. Let me take a moment to point out the beautiful things that will get done here at Camp 4. Camp 4 is easily the biggest of the sessions that you have come through. Bigger challenges, Bigger songs, but also bigger payoffs. Let me give you the big picture of your Learn and Master Guitar journey. The first half of the course or so is the "Learn" part of the journey. Let me give you the run down of that part of the course. Session 1 - The Park Entrance Lots of encouragement, introduction to basic skills, first aid station for your fingers. Lots of benches to rest on. Lots of pictures of mountain scenery hanging on the lodge wall. Lots of picture windows of great musical mountain vistas. An air of possibility, expectation and dreams fulfilled. Basic hiking and camping skills introduced. Sessions 2, 3, 4 - Learning Your Notes Now you begin to start climbing. Step after step, exercise after excercise, string after string, skill after skill. It's feels tough at the time and yet occasionally discouraging because you turn around and you can still see the car in the parking lot because you haven't travelled up too far. But by Session 4, you can't see the car anymore, just endless upwards steps and somewhere way up ahead a turn in the path. But what I know, that you may have trouble seeing, is that at the end of Session 4 is your first big milestone and visitors center. The one with the big leather couches, capachino machines, huge picturesque windows with the next summit, and if you turn around you can still see the car in the parking lot but only with binoculars now. Session 4 is the last stand for single notes. After session 4, you have reached your first summit - you've learned all of your notes in the first position. You've learned how to read music, you've learned about sharps and flats. You've learned a few chords along the way as well as a lot about yourself and persevering. There is a big bell in the visitor center between Session 4 and 5 that bedraggled muddied climbers ring in triumph as they come in to rest. On it, reads "I sincerely thought I would never read music but now I can read music. I'm really learning how to play the guitar. I may not be the worlds greatest but I'm definately learning and it feels great - hard but great." The bell rings several times a day. Sessions 5 - 6 - Basic Open Chords As you come out refreshed and revived from the Session 4 milestone you enter a completely different exciting musical world of chords. New things to learn that sound great. No more "Yankee Doodle" songs. You start really sounding like a guitar player. These are generally easier to conquer and very musically fulfilling - A well deserved rest between what you have come through and what is yet to come. Sessions 7 - 8 - Barre Chords The key to getting through these tough climbs is to work hard, take it slow, laugh a lot, and to not get stuck. Perseverance is the key here. Everyone thinks they won't make it through these sessions, but the secret is that everyone who doesn't quit will make it through these sessions if they don't stop. At the end of Session 8 is the second big visitors center. You have conquered the second big summit - Open Chords & Barre Chords & Major Scales & Keys. Everyone at this stage, gets a free shirt that says "I am now a real guitar player." There is lots of music in the visitor center. Guys playing in local jam sessions, or with friends, or at church. A whole world of musical opportunities have now opened up to you and your playing. You try to see back to where you started this journey and can still remember where the car is but you don't want to go back. You're in a new place musically with new possibilities. I hope this gives you some perspective on your journey through the "Learning" part of the Learn and Master Guitar Course. Keep up the great work. Have a smores! - Steve Krenz 1 Nutty1

Good one for your family Christmas party Doug... (An excuse to get a nylon classical...;-)

When you think about it, arent bridge pins kind of a strange, primitive method of holding a string under so much tension? (My Ovation and Godin dont have them either)

Ah... @DianeB but who is this mystery Canadian and will she/he make themslves known? The plot thickens...

Have a wonderful time @DianeB

After reviewing the YT video I see that the songwriter often places a " _ x " (number of times) symbol above the dotted bracket to indicate number of times played. Shouldn't this be a "standard" method so the player can just look at the notation and know?

While it doesn't specifically answer my question, this excellent video does discuss many different types of repeat symbols in music notation.

While reading lines of notation in a song or exercise, one is bound to come across a repeat { bracket } at the beginning and end of a line(s) . I understand the brackets mean play those lines and at the end go back and play them again, then move on to the next line. Then at the end of the composition there is often another bracket } which means play the whole thing again from the "head" , the beginning. What I dont understand is; How do you know how many times to play it through including the repeats? For example, while playing the exercise Jam tracks in Learn and Master Session 16, (page 87 and 88 of the lesson book) there are "Repeat { brackets at the beginning and end of all 3 songs. On the Jam tracks, "Rolling Along" plays through 2 times; "A Little Bit Rocky" plays through 3 times; and "Electric Funk " plays through 2 times on the track. So by looking at the music notation, there is no mention of how many times to play it. So, how does the player know? Trying to play along means you have to listen to the tracks first to figure it out. Did I miss something along the way?

I hope all of you fortunate participants have a great time and learn a lot ??? . We look forward to a full report!

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Very well done as usual Wim! You're hitting all the chord tones and changes right on. Early on it did sound a bit scale - like but later more melodic. Your slides and bends to pitch are very good. Im not nearly there, but Ive heard suggested a good soloing idea is to pick a central theme like a 3 or 4 note phrase, and work a melody around that. (hope that helps)?.

Who would have thought... yes her technique is excellent! And the jewelry didnt even get in the way ?

A guitar someone left out in the rain... ?

Would this not refer to the tempo? Perhaps a translation from traditional Italian musical notation "modereto brilliante" ie " sparkling, bright" , not quite Allegro, ie "lively".

Thanks for posting under the correct Session Doug!

A Forum for Learn and Master Guitar Students to ask questions, make comments, receive advice and encouragement, and post their progress on Session 4.