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Session 3 - Notes on the 3rd & 4th Strings


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Hello Friends

I started session 3 today after fulfilling requirements for session 2 and I have question for eight note exercises..

Do I use down-up motion only when I play them on the same strinng??

I rewatched session and Steve is inconsistent with playing eights on different strings and even same strings sometimes.

DO I use down-up motion for all eights o just ones in the same pitch like it's stated in lesson book??

Thank you

G12

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@grzyman12  There is no "hard and fast rule" for this, however, I would say with 1/8th notes you should be getting accustomed to "alternate picking" (down and up ) as you do this exercise.  One string or different strings... no matter. Later when you play at quicker tempos, you'll want to be used to alternate picking.

You can also experiment with "all down" picking too, as this does provide a slightly different tone.  

All the Best! N

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1 hour ago, NeilES335 said:

@grzyman12  There is no "hard and fast rule" for this, however, I would say with 1/8th notes you should be getting accustomed to "alternate picking" (down and up ) as you do this exercise.  One string or different strings... no matter. Later when you play at quicker tempos, you'll want to be used to alternate picking.

You can also experiment with "all down" picking too, as this does provide a slightly different tone.  

All the Best! N

Ah Thak you for a fast response...

I got used to down-up picking by doing workouts from session 2 quite a lot.

It's good to have some more context for the session going forward.

Big thanks and Regards 

G12

 

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Hi Everyone,

I started session 3 over the past week and am struggling with some of the exercises even at 60 bpm.  For the initial stages of getting used to the new notes and patterns, do I need to use a metronome?  I think trying to keep up is hurting me at this point.  Would it be better to practice the exercises, then when I’m able to do them properly, add in the metronome?

Thanks in advance for the advice!

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6 hours ago, Adam429 said:

Hi Everyone,

I started session 3 over the past week and am struggling with some of the exercises even at 60 bpm.  For the initial stages of getting used to the new notes and patterns, do I need to use a metronome?  I think trying to keep up is hurting me at this point.  Would it be better to practice the exercises, then when I’m able to do them properly, add in the metronome?

Thanks in advance for the advice!

As you mention, I would recommend getting more comfortable with the exercise before adding the metronome. You want to simplify it as much as possible, then you can add layers of difficulty once you get comfortable. Also, 60bpm is the target speed, so it's what you should work up to, not necessarily what you should practice at.

I would suggest to start playing the exercise very slowly, without a metronome. Pay attention to the note's duration if you can, if you can't it's fine, that would be step 2 once you can play the right notes. Once you're comfortable with that you can add the metronome, for me 40bpm has often been a good starting point for doing these exercises. Then you can raise the bpm a bit (2 to 5) and try again.

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1 hour ago, 3PowerChordsAndAnAttitude said:

As you mention, I would recommend getting more comfortable with the exercise before adding the metronome. You want to simplify it as much as possible, then you can add layers of difficulty once you get comfortable. Also, 60bpm is the target speed, so it's what you should work up to, not necessarily what you should practice at.

I would suggest to start playing the exercise very slowly, without a metronome. Pay attention to the note's duration if you can, if you can't it's fine, that would be step 2 once you can play the right notes. Once you're comfortable with that you can add the metronome, for me 40bpm has often been a good starting point for doing these exercises. Then you can raise the bpm a bit (2 to 5) and try again.

Great, thank you!  I will try playing without a metronome for a few sessions and then add it in slowly like you mentioned.

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I have question about bonus exercises.

 

Should we put same standard of speed as for lessons from main program?

 I mean for these Arpeggio like exercises and more complex ones. I assumed target speed is 60 bpm but clarification would be welcme.

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19 hours ago, grzyman12 said:

I have question about bonus exercises.

 

Should we put same standard of speed as for lessons from main program?

 I mean for these Arpeggio like exercises and more complex ones. I assumed target speed is 60 bpm but clarification would be welcme.

So far I have been using the same target bpm for both.

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@grzyman12 @3PowerChordsAndAnAttitude had to look up the LMG books.. been a while since I opened them

the main book doesn't state BPM for each lesson.. but the Jam CD's have a slow medium and fast tracks to them.

so use the Jam a Long CD's too.

the Bonus Book is where Steve gives a BPM count and yes they are the "bare minimum" BPM count 

but nothing saying you can't use the BPM ready to move on found in the Bonus lessons to the main lessons as well.

also don't look at the "number of weeks " to complete a lesson at the start of the chapters.. everyone is different.

there have been people have spent months working out session 4 and 4b

Session 3 recommendations

 

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The Eighth Note Exercises (pg. 17 of the lesson book) can be played without hesitation at 60 bpm.

• The Third and Fourth String Exercises can be played steadily at 60 bpm.

• “Yankee Doodle” and “Aura Lee” can be consistently played at 90 bpm.

• “When the Saints Go Marchin’ In” can be played accurately and evenly without hesitation at 120 bpm.

 

 

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Hi everyone. Thanks so much for all your encouraging contributions. I am now on session 3 but I think my progress is rather too slow. I've been on it for almost a month now, still struggling with the bonus exercises at 60bpm. Though I'm getting better at it, I just feel my progress slow compared to all these comments I've reading here about persons spending just few weeks.

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@Giovanni Not everyone is the same... Don't be discouraged, just take it steady and be sure you can complete the lessons and the bonus lessons well, before you move on. Steve has said he wishes he had not included the "time to complete this lesson" comment for this reason. It takes time to develop the knowledge and physical skills needed to play well. So, go at your own pace and it will pay off in the future.  

Cheers; Neil

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On 2/23/2021 at 2:26 AM, Giovanni said:

Hi everyone. Thanks so much for all your encouraging contributions. I am now on session 3 but I think my progress is rather too slow. I've been on it for almost a month now, still struggling with the bonus exercises at 60bpm. Though I'm getting better at it, I just feel my progress slow compared to all these comments I've reading here about persons spending just few weeks.

You shouldn't compare yourself with others; everyone is different and you don't know how long people practice.

If you struggle with the bonus exercises at 60bpm, at what speed do you not struggle? What about the standard exercises? And what do you struggle with exactly?

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