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@Nancy Lawing That's a good question for Steve on the Live Lesson, Nancy. By now he's probably the only one with any video from the Ustream, or earlier, eras. The old link has long been broken, as IBM acquired Ustream years ago. But I managed to snag a screen shot from (I think) October 8, 2013. I had been watching for just a few months, the late Pete Huttlinger was his guest, and Steve picked me to win one of Pete's video courses. Pete said, "Way to go, Diane," and you know the rest of the story.