Question regarding workout 3

[DANIELGUITAR88]

Hello Steve and forum family,

I'm currently working my way through the Major scale mastery level 1 workouts videos. Currently I am on final workout 3, but I am having trouble saying the note names out loud at this level where as workout 2, it was no problem..

 

My fingers know exactly where to go and playing the shapes from memory are no trouble at all, but saying the note names at speed is where the frustration comes...is that necessary at this level or could I just play it? I noticed Steve doesn't instruct us to say the not names in the workout 3 videos, am I doing it right or should I go back to workout 2?...any help would be appreciated.

[NeilES335]

Saying the notes names out loud will definately help you memorize the major scale in any given key. It also helps your fretboard knowledge ie what note is on each fret. So, keep it up! 

You can slow playing the scales right down to say 50 bpm to start then increase speed as you become more proficient.

[DANIELGUITAR88]

Thank you! I am able to say the note names all the way to workout 2, but doing it at 120 bpm(workout 3) is a bit bumpy. I just wasn't sure if that is the assignment, as Steve doesn't say them out, like he did in session 2.

 

Edited June 23, 2018 by DANIELGUITAR88

[NeilES335]

True....say and play at 120bpm would be a bit of a tonge twister?... so just use it as a tool and dont worry about it mucn?.

[DANIELGUITAR88]

I'm having no trouble at all saying the note names at 120 bpm when be go up and down the scale, but when it comes to saying it out loud at that speed and in THIRDS.. oooooh boy. lol

[Steve Krenz]

Thanks for the question.  I apologize I'm just now getting to this.

Yes, saying the note names is a mental juggling game.  I wouldn't worry too much about it.  The main idea is that you can play them and when you play each note you know what note you are playing.

In other words, as you are playing the note, in your minds eye you are saying "C" or "E" or whatever.  Verbalizing or physically saying the note names is just a way to demonstrate that your mind knows the names of the notes that you are playing.

So, it's less about physically saying the name and more about knowing the note name when you play it.

Hope this helps!

Keep up the great work.

- Steve

[DANIELGUITAR88]

Thanks so much Steve!

I happened to figure it out..I ended up playing workout 2 as a warmup before workout 3 and doing so constantly until I was able to perform workout 3 while vocalizing out loud the notes with relative ease. By this time, I am now doing just workout 3 by itself and saying notes aloud smoothly...am proud to say I HAVE CONQUERED THIS LITTLE BUMP IN THE ROAD! 

I hope anyone reading this can use my example as what is possible. A short while ago this was completely undoable and very frustrating and hard for me, but chipping away at it little bit at a time and it's now something I have in my pocket, no problems at all! 

Thanks so much for you guidance STEVE. Looking forward to growing with the GG family, even more.

[DANIELGUITAR88]

On 7/4/2018 at 3:43 AM, Steve Krenz said:

Thanks for the question.  I apologize I'm just now getting to this.

Yes, saying the note names is a mental juggling game.  I wouldn't worry too much about it.  The main idea is that you can play them and when you play each note you know what note you are playing.

In other words, as you are playing the note, in your minds eye you are saying "C" or "E" or whatever.  Verbalizing or physically saying the note names is just a way to demonstrate that your mind knows the names of the notes that you are playing.

So, it's less about physically saying the name and more about knowing the note name when you play it.

Hope this helps!

Keep up the great work.

- Steve

I just started level 2 workout one the other day! excited for what's to come! So I mastered level 1 seeing the note in my minds eye and verbalizing aloud...but for some reason with the new scales in level 2...it takes me a second to name the note, but I can play all the shapes and patterns NO PROBLEM...should I keep going or live in workout 1 for a while until my mind's eye can start seeing the note names??? thanks Steve...also see my reply in the above comment...I forgot to quote or tag you in that! 

Edited July 11, 2018 by DANIELGUITAR88

[Steve Krenz]

13 hours ago, DANIELGUITAR88 said:

I just started level 2 workout one the other day! excited for what's to come! So I mastered level 1 seeing the note in my minds eye and verbalizing aloud...but for some reason with the new scales in level 2...it takes me a second to name the note, but I can play all the shapes and patterns NO PROBLEM...should I keep going or live in workout 1 for a while until my mind's eye can start seeing the note names??? thanks Steve...also see my reply in the above comment...I forgot to quote or tag you in that! 

Daniel, It sounds like you are making great progress.  I wouldn't worry too much about the verbalizing of the notes.  As long as you understand what they are and your mind is keeping up with what your fingers are playing - that's the main thing.  Continue working through Level 2 and you should be just fine.

Let me know if you have any more questions along the way.

- Steve