?Guitar Gathering Forum Collaboration GG2?

[Nutty1]

?Following the Success of the first Guitar Gathering Collaboration (GG1) let's work together to write and record another song just for fun. It will be a team effort and anyone at any level is encouraged to join in. ?
   
Please volunteer to do the tasks below.  I will pick up any tasks that do not get volunteered for and I will help anyone who wants to join in.

?Do not worry if you have never done this before, I am here to help you and I know that other members of this forum will also help. Please feel free to send me a private message if you are not sure whether to join in.

?This is a great opportunity for people to learn how to do home recordings and music production and also for more experienced players to join in the fun of a collaboration and share their knowledge and experience, we need all skill levels! 

?One of the great things about working with others is that you end up with a song that has been crafted by a pool of ideas, I always find it a useful and fun learning experience!
 
The production tasks will be in a slightly different order this time to make the rhythm guitar track easier to do.

1) Fretless will Choose a tempo (bpm), time signature (eg 4/4), key (eg. C major) and a song structure (eg. intro, verse, chorus, bridge outro) with bars and chords.

2) Mandy will Record a rhythm guitar track. 

3) Fretless will record a drum track.

4) Mandy will Record a bass guitar track.

5) Gotto will write some lyrics and choose a title for the song.

6) Gotto will record the vocals.

7) Fretless will Record a lead guitar track (solos, fills).

? Gotto will Mix and master the song, this includes providing intermediate mixes for collaborators who want a specific mix in order to or record their parts.

Please note:

• Please record your track in 24 bit and, if you can, at 48kHz, saving your track as a wave (WAV) file. If you cannot do that then do the best quality you can. If you do not have any recording software you can use Audacity, it is free to download and easy to use. We have a shared online space from previous collaborations for uploading and sharing the audio files; I will send a PM with the link to new contributors.
• If you have already done a particular audio task (ie. drums, bass, guitar, vocals) in a previous collaboration then you are welcome again but do please let others have a chance to choose first.
• Please do not negatively criticise others' contributions

?Let the fun begin! ??????

We ended up making a song called  The Way It's Meant To Be      

Please click on this link to listen The Way It's Meant To Be 

Edited June 4, 2018 by Nutty1

[Fretless]

Thanks, Mandy.

Can I sign up to do the drum track this time?

[Nutty1]

20 minutes ago, Fretless said:

Thanks, Mandy.

Can I sign up to do the drum track this time?

Fantastic, thank you Fretless.

[Fretless]

If someone would like to have a go at mixing and would like help or guidance, feel free to volunteer and ask, otherwise I will mix privately just for my own learning, as is my wont.

Edited March 30, 2018 by Fretless

[Nutty1]

Hello Fretless, 

Thank you for your kind offer.

I have learnt a lot from doing the interim mixing for GG1 (your tip about the rhythm guitar tracks was A!) and looking at your final mix which is way superior to the muddy article that I produced. 

One of the most important things that I now know is that I know next to nothing about mixing and mastering. This prompted me to get some books to read and read articles on the internet. Also I now have an early Birthday  present of some entry level monitors. Wow what a difference!

Please could you help me on my mixing/mastering learning curve? If someone else wants to take you up on this kind offer could you keep me in on the loop please?

[rkl312]

IF no one signs up for lyrics I would be happy to give it a go.  But someone else should step up! 

[gotto]

I can try some lyrics and vocals for this one  or just one or the other.

Greg

[Nutty1]

Thank you @gotto I have put you down for lyrics and vocals.

@rkl312 do you fancy having a go at the rhythm guitar if I pick a chord progression and tempo that you can play?

[rkl312]

I think I'll leave that to someone with more talent but thank you anyway!  

[Nutty1]

19 hours ago, rkl312 said:

I think I'll leave that to someone with more talent but thank you anyway!  

OK, no worries. Perhaps another time for you.

[Fretless]

On 31/03/2018 at 8:44 AM, Nutty1 said:

Please could you help me on my mixing/mastering learning curve? If someone else wants to take you up on this kind offer could you keep me in on the loop please?

Yes to both questions. I am by no means an expert but I am happy to explain my thoughts as we progress through collaboration mixes.

[Nutty1]

19 minutes ago, Fretless said:

Yes to both questions. I am by no means an expert but I am happy to explain my thoughts as we progress through collaboration mixes.

Thank you Fretless, that will be absolutely brilliant!

[Nutty1]

On 01/04/2018 at 8:04 AM, Nutty1 said:

do you fancy having a go at the rhythm guitar if I pick a chord progression and tempo that you can play?

I extend this invitation to anyone who would like to have a go at doing the rhythm guitar.

 

[Fretless]

If no one wants to contribute, why don't I do parts 1 and 3 and you do parts 2 and 4? Gotto will do parts 5 and 6 and we can see then who would like to do parts 7 and 8.

[gotto]

Mandy, if you are having problems playing, let me know and we can swap parts also if it is a difficulty for you yet.

Greg

[Nutty1]

@gotto I am nearing the end of my 6 weeks of not playing guitar. I will have a better idea on Sunday as to what my playing will be like. There seems to be an improvement in the trigger finger of my left hand but "the proof of the pudding will be in the eating". Thank you for your offer, fingers crossed that I will be able to do it (pun intended!).????

[Nutty1]

14 hours ago, Fretless said:

If no one wants to contribute, why don't I do parts 1 and 3 and you do parts 2 and 4? Gotto will do parts 5 and 6 and we can see then who would like to do parts 7 and 8.

Yes, it is a cunning plan! Let us assume that I will be ok to do this but Greg will step in to the rescue if I can not. 

We are up and running folks!

[gotto]

Sending good vibes your way Mandy.

Greg

[Fretless]

I have only just noticed that I am to provide the song's structure. It is 1.00 am here and I am just off to bed and then I will be out, playing drums at a church leaders' conference in the morning, so I will come up with something when I am back home, in about 15 hours from now.

Edited April 6, 2018 by Fretless

[Nutty1]

10 hours ago, gotto said:

Sending good vibes your way Mandy.

Greg

Thank you Greg, I am going to start playing again today, I just can not wait another day!?

[Nutty1]

8 hours ago, Fretless said:

I have only just noticed that I am to provide the song's structure. It is 1.00 am here and I am just off to bed and then I will be out, playing drums at a church leaders' conference in the morning, so I will come up with something when I am back home, in about 15 hours from now.

Thank you Fretless, there is no rush. Please do it at a time that suits you. We are not in a hurry.

[Fretless]

I woke up with the intro in my head and I managed to complete the song before I need to leave, so here it is.

122bpm, 4/4 time, D  major

Intro - 4 bars
[DGAA]  A     [DGAA]  A

Chorus - 8 bars
G     D     G     D
G     D     A     A

Verse - 10 bars
F#m   F#m   Em    Em
F#m   F#m   Em    Em
A     A

Chorus - 8 bars
G     D     G     D
G     D     A     A

Solo - 8 bars
[DGAA]  A     [DGAA]  A
[DGAA]  A     [DGAA]  A

Verse - 10 bars
F#m   F#m   Em    Em
F#m   F#m   Em    Em
A     A

Chorus - 8 bars
G     D     G     D
G     D     A     A

Outro solo (to fade) - 16 bars
[DGAA]  A     [DGAA]  A
[DGAA]  A     [DGAA]  A
[DGAA]  A     [DGAA]  A
[DGAA]  A     [DGAA]  A

I need to explain [DGAA]: it is 4 chords in 1 bar (measure). Otherwise, every written chord is a full bar. If anyone needs an audio demonstration of DGAA, let me know.

[Nutty1]

Thank you Fretless, it looks great. I will get to work on it.

[Nutty1]

I have put some rhythm guitar tracks in the Box, I have used the following GarageBand amps "Britt and Clean", "Fat Face" and "Warm British Combo". 

I like the first two together.

Brit and Clean

Fat Face

Warm British Combo

They are not very good, I feel like I am a beginner again and I am still not all that happy with my trigger finger(s). So if anyone else would like to have a go at doing this then your contribution will be most welcome! 

[gotto]

I am currently developing a side project trio, Americana -themed. One of the players has just completed his recording studio, which is where we currently practice. We record some of our practices and I am using this opportunity to better learn the studio side of recording and mixing. I will offer up mixing this collab, and would like to solicit the aid of my co-player.

I will listen to your recordings sometime today and get back to you Mandy. Rhythm guitar is my strength so if you wish to swap tasks, or offer up some advice,  let me know. I sent a PM.

Greg